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Gran Turismo vs Forza Motorsports: A few more cents.

(this is an update to the following post)

Well, in the time since i’ve written another post about the two games. I got a PS3 and Gt5 Prologue. On the 360 end, Forza 3 also came out. so now… drumroll please… i can weigh in about the two.

Forza 3
Wow. Forza 2 was one thing, but Forza 3 definitely stepped it up. More of everything… cars, tracks, series. From the beginning, every car is available for purchase, granted you have the credits. When you win a series of races you get a pretty good amount of money so you don’t have to spend too much time racing for extra cash to keep ‘moving up’. You don’t win prize cars (so far, i’m a level 13) at the end of series, instead you get them when you level up. You level up pretty quickly early on, and the cars are actually useful (i’m looking at you GT).

Along the lines of race courses, there is a pretty good amount to choose from. You have everything from tight training courses, up to full international circuits. Some real, some fake, but each one has its own thing going on. Fujimi Kaido is an incredible windy road to hone your drifting skills on, and even get an acheivement like i did.

(i choose the video mostly because of the great song, but the drivings good too. POS – Optimist)

The car selection is quite diverse, from dinky sub-compact/city cars, boy racers, sports cars, and even some stock cars. I bought the ‘VIP’ version of the game which got me some exclusive cars and a couple free cars gifted to me by the developers. One of the cars they sent me was an incredibly fast Acura Le Mans car. Instead of having 6 different versions of the same model, they’ll chose the 2 best ones. Tons of modifications and upgrades are available, including the newly added option to change your cars drivetrain… aka turn an all wheel drive to a Rear wheel drive car. The amazing livery editor is back, and has been refined. When you load a vinyl group, it actually ‘groups’ them together into one layer instead of just importing all the layers from the vinyl group over. Tons of paint color available, but it would have been great to be able mix your own, and also a choice of matte finish would have been great.

I haven’t raced online yet, I’m waiting to get a beefier, diverse garage first. I’ve bounced into the auction house and picked up a few bargains. but beware, some of the cars i thought i was getting for a steal, ended up being prize cars you get when you level up. I ended up with two duplicates, but luckily i put em back up for sale, and got rid of em.

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
What can i say, its fucking beautiful. When a developer takes their time to learn how to take advantage of the PS3 powers, this is what you get. This is one of those rare games that just could not be done exactly the same on the 360. But, with things like damage, and custom paint/design missing, there’s less to bog down the system, freeing it up for more rainbows and unicorns.

The physics engine has been greatly improved over GT4. The cars are not as ‘dive-y’ as they were in GT4 when you brake hard. One thing i noticed, you still cannot flip a car over like you can in Forza 3 (i still haven’t been able to flip one yet). I slammed a car into the wall going really fast, spun out, hit the wall again. It was then that the car started hitting these invisible walls keeping it from flipping end over end. You no longer bounce off walls any more, and you also get thrown off when you hit a car too.

Cars…yea, there’s some cars in it, but not much. Usually 2-4 per manufacturer, but some of them get incredibly pricey. You cannot tune them, supposedly the option to change ride height is in there, but i have not been able to find it. Your limited to the colors that the manufacturer made the car in… no custom colors… WTF!

This whole colors thing really annoys me about Gran Turismo. In real life, you can take you car to get painted another color, colors the manufacturer does not offer. Why the fuck can you not do that in Gran Turismo. I’m not asking for a livery editor like Forza, but i just want to be able to paint the car whatever colors i want. Its bonus points when you can paint different parts different colors like Forza. In forza you can paint the rims, hood, mirrors, and even the spoiler. My signature paint job ALWAYS includes a carbon colored hood. In Gran Turismo the car never feel like they are mine, instead i’m just borrowing them from the museum for the day.

Heres comes another bummer… theres only 6 different race courses available, each one has 2 versions. 4 real world courses are available, and 2 fake ones from the GT universe. They are pretty good, just, not enough. The Developers released another course a while ago, but it would be cool if they could drop a couple more for us to race on. you know, to whet our appetite.

Conclusion
Considering GT5 Prologue is just a demo and Forza 3 is a full game – Forza 3 is the current leader in the race. GT5 has potential, but they are not showing anything new in Prologue, just nice graphics and improved physics. There was more than just a car/course update when it comes to Forza, everything seemed to be even further refined or improved.

In the end it boils down to what i want to play when i want to play. Do i wan to just jump in race, and i’m done? ok, then i’ll play Gran Turismo 5 Prologue. Do i want to put some time into modifying and tuning a car? then Forza 3 is the way to go. each one is great, just depends on what your looking for.

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